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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-1058</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca,

Yes, I am in Pennsylvania, in the suburbs of Philadelphia.  I would love to come and visit your church sometime.  Just let me know where and when.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca,</p>
<p>Yes, I am in Pennsylvania, in the suburbs of Philadelphia.  I would love to come and visit your church sometime.  Just let me know where and when.</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca(the great)</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>rebecca(the great)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, you are in PA? I think you would enjoy visiting my church! You would be welcome to come visit sometime. It is a youth ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, you are in PA? I think you would enjoy visiting my church! You would be welcome to come visit sometime. It is a youth ministry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to respond to an unfounded accusation by EricKyp...because I was the one whose response to him was misunderstood, perhaps reasonably.

What I said was that his comment suggested that those of us disagreeing with David were perverts.  I wrote that the homosexual lobby likes to use that same argument to silence ITS critics.

Now, of course, having reviewed my comment, I can see how my clumsy phrasing might have caused him to misunderstand.  Sorry 'bout that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to respond to an unfounded accusation by EricKyp&#8230;because I was the one whose response to him was misunderstood, perhaps reasonably.</p>
<p>What I said was that his comment suggested that those of us disagreeing with David were perverts.  I wrote that the homosexual lobby likes to use that same argument to silence ITS critics.</p>
<p>Now, of course, having reviewed my comment, I can see how my clumsy phrasing might have caused him to misunderstand.  Sorry &#8217;bout that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 22:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul C. - The post itself...sounds a lot like me.  I was tempted to respond privately because it touched a part of me that tries to express itself to my former wife but always get confused and cluttered by the words I attempt to use.  It was pretty much summed up in this;&lt;blockquote&gt;But when you find this place, or when you discover that you are already in this place, devoid of all that is peripheral, it is full of love and benediction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think you would find an epistle that lacks the &lt;i&gt;fighting against the falsity that was steadily creeping into the early church&lt;/i&gt;  nor one that lacks the teaching of love and compassion also.

Offend someone....*chuckles* seems to be a standard part of my life lately but that's another story.  Ingrid's post in itself as not bad , it was the follow up remarks that fell short of setting an example in my opinion.  And then to hear others &lt;b&gt;say&lt;/b&gt; that they actually responded, commented but that those responses failed to show up.  Now we are into what I feel is "I'm going to to tell you what I think and censor anything that does not agree with me".  Comments are controlled by the owner of the site.  When it comes to comments you either show them all or none, anything other than that and I feel someone has a hidden agenda.

The links, he gave a warning, I did not go there.  I can only guess what is there.  In that matter I would agree with you that it was probably unsuitable for a Pastor to link subject matter like that.  I realize we are to live in this world and be a part of it but not participate in some things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul C. - The post itself&#8230;sounds a lot like me.  I was tempted to respond privately because it touched a part of me that tries to express itself to my former wife but always get confused and cluttered by the words I attempt to use.  It was pretty much summed up in this;<br />
<blockquote>But when you find this place, or when you discover that you are already in this place, devoid of all that is peripheral, it is full of love and benediction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you would find an epistle that lacks the <i>fighting against the falsity that was steadily creeping into the early church</i>  nor one that lacks the teaching of love and compassion also.</p>
<p>Offend someone&#8230;.*chuckles* seems to be a standard part of my life lately but that&#8217;s another story.  Ingrid&#8217;s post in itself as not bad , it was the follow up remarks that fell short of setting an example in my opinion.  And then to hear others <b>say</b> that they actually responded, commented but that those responses failed to show up.  Now we are into what I feel is &#8220;I&#8217;m going to to tell you what I think and censor anything that does not agree with me&#8221;.  Comments are controlled by the owner of the site.  When it comes to comments you either show them all or none, anything other than that and I feel someone has a hidden agenda.</p>
<p>The links, he gave a warning, I did not go there.  I can only guess what is there.  In that matter I would agree with you that it was probably unsuitable for a Pastor to link subject matter like that.  I realize we are to live in this world and be a part of it but not participate in some things.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-423</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 00:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You pharisees!
How can you be so judgmental on this brother? Just because he likes nude art???

I happen to like nude art too! Usually I get it in Penthouse or Playboy...but his "naked pastor" site will do in a pinch...

C'mon we are all sinners right? let's go crack a cold one and get hammered while we surf some "fine art" on the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You pharisees!<br />
How can you be so judgmental on this brother? Just because he likes nude art???</p>
<p>I happen to like nude art too! Usually I get it in Penthouse or Playboy&#8230;but his &#8220;naked pastor&#8221; site will do in a pinch&#8230;</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon we are all sinners right? let&#8217;s go crack a cold one and get hammered while we surf some &#8220;fine art&#8221; on the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what would you make of this post (http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1318) and the link at the bottom of it?  Do you think this is suitable for a pastor who claims to represent God to a flock of people?  Don't confuse the word love for excusing foolishness.

One more thought, please find an epistle in which one of the apostles were not fighting against the falsity that was steadily creeping into the early church.  what's my point?  To stand for the truth might just mean that you offend some.

I find nothing hateful in Ingrid's post at all.  As for the mostly anonymous commenters on her blog, who are you holding responsible for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what would you make of this post (http://nakedpastor.com/archives/1318) and the link at the bottom of it?  Do you think this is suitable for a pastor who claims to represent God to a flock of people?  Don&#8217;t confuse the word love for excusing foolishness.</p>
<p>One more thought, please find an epistle in which one of the apostles were not fighting against the falsity that was steadily creeping into the early church.  what&#8217;s my point?  To stand for the truth might just mean that you offend some.</p>
<p>I find nothing hateful in Ingrid&#8217;s post at all.  As for the mostly anonymous commenters on her blog, who are you holding responsible for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been reading &lt;a href="http://nakedpastor.com/" title="nakedpastor" rel="nofollow"&gt; for almost a month now.  The only thing that really caught my eye as being &lt;i&gt;different&lt;/i&gt; was the "Buy me a beer" tag.  I did chuckle at it but thought it odd for a Pastor.

That was my &lt;em&gt;first&lt;/em&gt; impresion.  As I read deeper into the site and enjoyed some of the cartoons I actually bookmarked it under "Awesome Christian Sites"  and trust me people, I AM a conservative.

It was only today that I actually went back and read the review given by SoL and the follow up on Apprising Minsitries.  First impression, I was not impressed.

But to come here and discover that it seems that comments were not posted, disappeared in WWW land or whatever may have happened to them.  Let's just say that unless SoL can come up with a very good explanation for that their site is one that will hang out in "Blogs I read".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading <a href="http://nakedpastor.com/" title="nakedpastor" rel="nofollow"> for almost a month now.  The only thing that really caught my eye as being <i>different</i> was the &#8220;Buy me a beer&#8221; tag.  I did chuckle at it but thought it odd for a Pastor.</p>
<p>That was my <em>first</em> impresion.  As I read deeper into the site and enjoyed some of the cartoons I actually bookmarked it under &#8220;Awesome Christian Sites&#8221;  and trust me people, I AM a conservative.</p>
<p>It was only today that I actually went back and read the review given by SoL and the follow up on Apprising Minsitries.  First impression, I was not impressed.</p>
<p>But to come here and discover that it seems that comments were not posted, disappeared in WWW land or whatever may have happened to them.  Let&#8217;s just say that unless SoL can come up with a very good explanation for that their site is one that will hang out in &#8220;Blogs I read&#8221;.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://onethingiknow.net/2007/08/06/christians-hate-nakedness-and-namecalling/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David:  you continue to be in my thoughts and prayers/

To Dave in Dallas:  Thanks for your funny comment and for your pointing out that wonderful scripture from James 2:13.  It is now one of my favorite Bible passages.

To T.J.:  I don't really know what blogs you are reading, but NakedPastor and OneThingIKnow contain a great deal of clear-cut Biblical teaching.  NakedPastor no doubt has much more than this one, since OneThingIKnow is my catch-all blog.  You may or may not have noticed that I also have a blog that features my paraphrases of scripture and worship resources (Word and Table), and another blog that features my sermons and sermon resources (Proclamation).   You also fail to note in your comment that Jesus himself was a well-known storyteller, using many stories from his own time and culture as the background and foundation for his parables.  He never separated himself from the culture of his day (and was called a glutton and winebibber by the more religious types in Jerusalem), preferring to hang out with anyone other than the religious professionals, who ultimately crucified him in part because of his association with sinners, prostitutes, and tax collectors (Benedict Arnolds to their own nation and people).

The question that begs being asked by your response is what does the Kingdom of God look like in scripture.  What does Jesus say about it in his very earthy stories and teachings?  And who comes closer to illustrating these truths with their messages and lives?

To erickyp:  It is sad that the "church" is filled with judmentalism and hatred.  Some people are so quick to condemn.  I don't think Jesus himself would fare very well with these type of folks today.  He sure as hell wouldn't last the three years he did in Judea before being crucified.

To all:  And regardless of whether I agree with your views or not, thanks for stopping by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To David:  you continue to be in my thoughts and prayers/</p>
<p>To Dave in Dallas:  Thanks for your funny comment and for your pointing out that wonderful scripture from <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=James+2%3A13" class="bibleref" title="ESV James 2:13">James 2:13</a>.  It is now one of my favorite Bible passages.</p>
<p>To T.J.:  I don&#8217;t really know what blogs you are reading, but NakedPastor and OneThingIKnow contain a great deal of clear-cut Biblical teaching.  NakedPastor no doubt has much more than this one, since OneThingIKnow is my catch-all blog.  You may or may not have noticed that I also have a blog that features my paraphrases of scripture and worship resources (Word and Table), and another blog that features my sermons and sermon resources (Proclamation).   You also fail to note in your comment that Jesus himself was a well-known storyteller, using many stories from his own time and culture as the background and foundation for his parables.  He never separated himself from the culture of his day (and was called a glutton and winebibber by the more religious types in Jerusalem), preferring to hang out with anyone other than the religious professionals, who ultimately crucified him in part because of his association with sinners, prostitutes, and tax collectors (Benedict Arnolds to their own nation and people).</p>
<p>The question that begs being asked by your response is what does the Kingdom of God look like in scripture.  What does Jesus say about it in his very earthy stories and teachings?  And who comes closer to illustrating these truths with their messages and lives?</p>
<p>To erickyp:  It is sad that the &#8220;church&#8221; is filled with judmentalism and hatred.  Some people are so quick to condemn.  I don&#8217;t think Jesus himself would fare very well with these type of folks today.  He sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t last the three years he did in Judea before being crucified.</p>
<p>To all:  And regardless of whether I agree with your views or not, thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: erickyp</title>
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		<dc:creator>erickyp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I left 2 comments on this @ slice; the 1st one was published and the 2nd one was not. It was interesting that I commented on the fact that yeah, he may get defrocked but not because of skeletons in the closet as it looks like he has revealed everything. My comment was then that it has been my experience that people who scream in condemnation like that are usually the ones with skeletons in the closet.
    After that, it was said that I must be a sodomite. Needless to say, they didn't publish my next comment which just basically asked why did that fact that he liked cigars and wine mean he was stealing from the offering?
   I just happened upon that thing. I could not beleive that something like that existed in the body of Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I left 2 comments on this @ slice; the 1st one was published and the 2nd one was not. It was interesting that I commented on the fact that yeah, he may get defrocked but not because of skeletons in the closet as it looks like he has revealed everything. My comment was then that it has been my experience that people who scream in condemnation like that are usually the ones with skeletons in the closet.<br />
    After that, it was said that I must be a sodomite. Needless to say, they didn&#8217;t publish my next comment which just basically asked why did that fact that he liked cigars and wine mean he was stealing from the offering?<br />
   I just happened upon that thing. I could not beleive that something like that existed in the body of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: T.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember that Mary sat at the  feet of Jesus and learned of Him...even fixing dinner was not important...Martha...whoa..another story....what I've noticed is that there are many, in the name of being RELEVANT simply talk of all the world's things...art..booze...body modification....(been to their church website......rolls eyes),
lattes, meditation (a la middle eastern mysticism) and on and on it goes....movies...Pan's Labyrinth.....PLEASE!!!!

Jesus was discussing HIS KINGDOM with Mary....not the kingsdom of this world...He was TEACHING HER  (I'm sure) how to live in THIS WORLD....but not be OF IT...but to be of the KINGDOM OF GOD&#62;....

So when we find "pastors" who yak more about the trappings of this world without CLEAR CUT BIBLICAL TEACHINGS, we laugh..cry..scratch our heads and say....is THIS the body of CHrist?

How come we have "christians" whom seem to be BI-POLAR of each other?  Jesus said bewar of false teachers....when a pastor tells me ALL ABOUT HIM and NOT MUCH OF JESUS...I WONDER....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember that Mary sat at the  feet of Jesus and learned of Him&#8230;even fixing dinner was not important&#8230;Martha&#8230;whoa..another story&#8230;.what I&#8217;ve noticed is that there are many, in the name of being RELEVANT simply talk of all the world&#8217;s things&#8230;art..booze&#8230;body modification&#8230;.(been to their church website&#8230;&#8230;rolls eyes),<br />
lattes, meditation (a la middle eastern mysticism) and on and on it goes&#8230;.movies&#8230;Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth&#8230;..PLEASE!!!!</p>
<p>Jesus was discussing HIS KINGDOM with Mary&#8230;.not the kingsdom of this world&#8230;He was TEACHING HER  (I&#8217;m sure) how to live in THIS WORLD&#8230;.but not be OF IT&#8230;but to be of the KINGDOM OF GOD&gt;&#8230;.</p>
<p>So when we find &#8220;pastors&#8221; who yak more about the trappings of this world without CLEAR CUT BIBLICAL TEACHINGS, we laugh..cry..scratch our heads and say&#8230;.is THIS the body of CHrist?</p>
<p>How come we have &#8220;christians&#8221; whom seem to be BI-POLAR of each other?  Jesus said bewar of false teachers&#8230;.when a pastor tells me ALL ABOUT HIM and NOT MUCH OF JESUS&#8230;I WONDER&#8230;.</p>
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